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Abu Unsure May 2, 2011 24

Apparently Osama bin Laden has been shot in the head and killed by US troops, Barack Obama announces today. It is said the americans already buried Osama at sea but no images and no footage as such have been released although it has been several hours. Could it be a political move to increase Obama’s ratings?

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US president Barack Obama said bin Laden, the most-wanted fugitive on the US list, had been killed on Sunday in a US operation in the Pakistani city of Abbottabad, about 61km north of Islamabad.

“Tonight, I can report to the people of the United States and the world, the United States had carried an operation that has killed Osama bin Laden, a terrorist responsible for killing thousands of innocent people,” Obama said in a statement.

“Today, at my direction, the United States carried out that operation… they killed Osama bin Laden and took custody of his body.

“The death of bin Laden marks the most significant achievement to date against al-Qaeda.

“We must also reaffirm that United states is not and will never be at war against Islam. Bin Laden was not a Muslim leader, in fact, he slaughtered many Muslims,” Obama said.

Four people, including one of bin Laden’s sons, were also killed in the operation.

According to New York Times, bin Laden’s body was taken to Afghanistan and later buried at sea.

Hours after Obama made the announcement, a top al-Qaeda ideologue promised revenge for bin Laden’s death. The commentator, going by the online name Assad al-Jihad2 posted on websites a long eulogy for the al-Qaeda leader and promised to “avenge the killing of the Sheik of Islam”.

The Pakistani Taliban also threatened attacks against government leaders, including President Asif Ali Zardari, the Pakistan army and the United States.

“Now Pakistani rulers, President Zardari and the army will be our first targets. America will be our second target,” Ehsanullah Ehsan, a spokesman for Tehrik-e-Taliban Pakistan (TTP), or Taliban Movement of Pakistan, told Reuters by telephone from an undisclosed location.

US Celebrations

But as the news of bin Laden’s death spread, crowds gathered outside the White House in Washington DC to celebrate.

Former US president George Bush called his death a “momentous achievement”.

“The fight against terror goes on, but tonight America has sent an unmistakable message: No matter how long it takes justice will be done,” Bush said in a statement.

According to Al Jazeeera’s Rosalind Jordan in Washington, the operation had been in the making for the last nine or 10 months.

“The fact that it happened inside Pakistan, there have been suggestions that Pakistani intelligence may have been protecting them,” she said.

Patty Culhane, another Al Jazeera correspondent, said the US authorities got intelligence last September and were able to track bin Laden down through his couriers. They followed them to his compound which was reported to be worth over a million dollars.

Reporting from Pakistan, Al Jazeera’s Kamal Hyder said the development had caught a lot of people by surprise .

“He was considered by many as a hero, but not to the extent that people would come out on the streets. The reaction so far not likely to be strong on the streets, perhaps a protest here or there by the religious parties,” he said.

‘Symbolic victory’

Qais Azimy, Al Jazeera’s correspondent in Kabul, said Afghan officials described bin Laden’s killing as a “symbolic victory”, since he was no longer directly connected to the group’s field operations.

“This organisation (Al Qaeda) is more than Bin Laden, it may be symbolised by Bin Laden, but it definitely is more than Bin Laden.”

Mark Kimmit, a US military analyst, said bin Laden’s death “was not the end of terrorism, but an end of a chapter.”

“Capturing or killing bin Laden has more iconic value. It will have symbolic value, because it has been a number of years since bin Laden has exercised day to day control over operations. We still have an al-Qaeda threat out there and that will be there for a number of years.

“This organisation (al-Qaeda) is more than bin Laden, it may be symbolised by bin Laden, but it definitely is more than bin Laden,” he said.

It is, however, a major accomplishment for Obama and his national security team. Obama’s predecessor, George Bush, had repeatedly vowed to bring to justice the mastermind of the September 11, 2001, attacks on New York and Washington, but never did before leaving office in early 2009.

He had been the subject of a search since he eluded US soldiers and Afghan militia forces in a large-scale assault on the Tora Bora mountains in 2001. The trail quickly went cold after he disappeared and many intelligence officials believed he had been hiding in Pakistan.

While in hiding, bin Laden had taunted the West and advocated his views in videotapes spirited from his hideaway.

Besides September 11, Washington has also linked bin Laden to a string of attacks – including the 1998 bombings of American embassies in Kenya and Tanzania and the 2000 bombing of the warship USS Cole in Yemen.

Source: Al Jazeera and agencies

24 Comments »

  1. bintfulaan May 2, 2011 at 3:58 pm Reply Tweet

    The paragraph above the line, was it written by the author? if so, what do you mean by 'increase obamas ratings?'


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  2. Abu Umayr May 2, 2011 at 5:00 pm Reply Tweet

    Obama since his time of beginning presidency, has lost popularity especially for his military stance where he increased troops and also now started bombing various other countries, whatever the reason may be.

    Making so many wrong decisions, he definitely needs to show they are ‘working’. Also are there plans to take a new military move? Having the people on his side will make this easy.

    Wallaahu ‘Alam.


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  3. Abu Umayr May 2, 2011 at 5:10 pm Reply Tweet

    *Burial at sea, literally means throwing him into the sea.


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  4. - May 2, 2011 at 5:24 pm Reply Tweet

    not to mention the fact that they need to be getting out of afghanistan, and realistically, what will they tell the american ppl? that after 10 yrs they've come out having lost X amount of soldiers, billions in $ and had to withdraw coz they simply couldnt divide and conquer as they hoped? psssht! u kiddin me? this is, as the bro said, a means by which to boost obamas popularity; to deflect from libya [criticism re nato strikes killin members of gaddafi family]; and to fuel negativity in the west towards the muslims. how better to do it than to bring back 9/11 fresh into the hearts and minds of the american ppl, and to say look at what we've acheived by finally killing this guy, [although we've got more to do]..?

    the other problem – a lack of photographic evidence. this is the same bunch of ppl that sensationalised the death of saddam hussein, to the degree that footage of his capture and subsequent hanging was widely circulated. do you reallllllllllllllllllllllllllllllllly think they wouldnt at least boast with one picture of usama and say here, we've caught the guy?

    but beyond all that. please make du'aa for the muslims all over the world. these recent happenings, the muslim world in turmoil..make du'aa insha'allah.


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  5. - May 2, 2011 at 5:30 pm Reply Tweet

    with regards to "usama's" body – apparently the saudi's rejected it, hence it was thrown into sea. hmmm. a pakistani analyst, zaid hameed i think, he said: when the west wanted to justify the invasion of afghanistan, they geographically reshaped the world map to make afghanistan look close to the european nations, so the europeans would see turmoil in afghanistan as a real threat to themselves [and thus the support for the invasion would increase]. it's the same bunch of ppl that have killed usama bin laden, without any input from the pakistani military, spoken to saudi, had his body rejected, and thus disposed of him at sea all in the space of 12ish hours. c'mon, get real.


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  6. bintfulaan May 2, 2011 at 8:21 pm Reply Tweet

    SubhanAllaah. Forgive me. I read and wrote obama but for some reason my brain was thinking osama.


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  7. Umm Abu Dujaanah May 2, 2011 at 9:05 pm Reply Tweet

    There is a video on Youtube which shows the 'face' of him but after close analysis of news reporters they have reported it is a fake photograph. It looks verryyyy fake, Wallaahu A'lam

    You may have to sign in to view it

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DywpYUgPQMo


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  8. - May 2, 2011 at 9:12 pm Reply Tweet

    thats an old photo, i saw it on a webpage from bush's day lolol!


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  9. Abu Umayr May 2, 2011 at 10:06 pm Reply Tweet

    "The US disposed the body in the sea to prevent the grave site becoming a shrine". MashaAllaah the americans are 'preventing' shirk…


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  10. Umm Abu Dujaanah May 2, 2011 at 10:12 pm Reply Tweet

    loool.


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  11. M.A. May 2, 2011 at 10:13 pm Reply Tweet

    It seems that OBL is dead but seriously the story surrounding today’s news of OBL death doesn’t add up – here are the problems:

    Islamabad is in the heart of Pakistan, it is not possible for U.S. forces to enter Pakistan’s airspace and travel all the way to that town, without the Pakistan government knowing because normally what happens is when an unknown aircraft enters the airspace of any country, the country will seek to identify it and would shoot it down if they have violated the airspace. Thus if the U.S. really did kill OBL inside Pakistan, the Pakistan government must have known in advance.

    However, if the Pakistani government did know in advance – then this itself would be a massive risk to let U.S. forces launch an operation inside Pakistan – because Pakistani’s already have anger towards the U.S. which is already sending drones that dropping missiles and killing people inside Pakistan – and that’s just when drones/robots are doing the killing from the air above rather than U.S. forces on the ground. Thus the Pakistani government won’t have allowed U.S. troops on Pakistani grounds because that would cause backlash and possible violent repercussions from the Pakistani people. And if Pakistani did allow U.S. carry out this operattion – SHAME ON PAKISTAN FOR KILLING THEIR SENSE OF DIGNITY BY LETTING THE COUNTRY THAT KILLS MANY OF ITS CITIZENS VIA DRONE ATTACKS TO LAUNCH A MILITARY OPERATION, THIS TIME INVOLVING U.S. TROOPS ON PAKISTANI SOIL.

    This leaves one scenario on the story of OBL death; it was Pakistani forces that did the operation which killed OBL. This has some validity as there were reports in pakistani media saying pakistani forces/police actually killed OBL. So if this is the case – why did U.S. claim the operation because if Pakistani forces killed OBL – then the militants would be ever eager to target Pakistani, and thus would leave Pakistan paralyzed from violent conflict and bloodshed. So it seems Pakistan let U.S. claim the attack in order to avoid violent reprisals by militants. By allowing the U.S. to claim the attack, would still put doubt in many that the Pakistan government didn’t know about it and thus Pakistan forces may still be targeted by militants.

    The U.S. was all the more keen to claim the attack for itself because it provides the Americans and the west the “victory” that they have been seeking for almost a decade but instead have been miserably failing in Iraq and Afghanistan. This would also arouse patriotic sentiments and popularity for the U.S. regime and give a sense of ‘justification’ for the invasion of and continued war efforts in Afghanistan and Iraq which has resulted in the deaths of hundreds of thousands, most of whom were innocent civilians. In other words, the U.S. would deflect blame from themselves and rather capitalize on the ‘euphoria’ that people are experiencing on hearing of the death of OBL by ‘U.S. forces’. And of course, it would be a HUGE HUGE electoral boost for Obama. This 'euphoria' could even be manipulated to launch further military actiosn in other countries – the U.S. would be saying "we got the head of 'Al-Qaida' – lets stay and finish them off".

    Imagine how the story/narrative would have been different had the Pakistani forces killed OBL rather than U.S. – It wouldnt give the same effect, the U.S. wont have been considered victorious. I doubt that the people in NYC and Washington would be celebrating like they have been or even claimed ‘victory’ for themselves. Rather this would be a ‘victory’ for Pakistan – and how ironic that would have sounded given U.S. drones are killing hundreds in North West Pakistan. For this reason, I believe America NEEDED very badly this claim of killing OBL. And may have claimed this attack despite not catting it out for the sake of propaganda.

    Beside this their are so many questions still yet to be asked and nothing adds up i.e. how did OBL get into pakistan, near the capital, into a town taht has one of the best military academy and in which high ranking retired military personnel live. Furthermore, was he killed, is this his body, did he die before, was he deliberately and knowingly kept by the Paksitani military and maybe with the U.S. collaboration in order to kill him with a big bang. How did he remain undetected especially if he had a child and wife, if the child was ill – how did he receive treatment. Nobody would be considered a fool who thinks this is a grand conspiracy…… like 9/11 [possibly?].

    Allah knows best. This is just my opinion and critical analysis; But I refuse to accept, like a blind sheep, the narrative of others especially the unjust. The Muslim mind must be aroused to think for itself and critically analyze and question the ones that fabricated lies, invade other countries, torture and kill others including innocent people and at the same time claim they are spreading ‘peace’, ‘democracy’, ‘human rights’ and all the other hypocritical statements that come out of their hypocritical mouths. I have no doubt that the U.S. is playing games, a game which has been forced upon all the people and those who refuse to play are the ones that have lost.

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    Myself personally, i take the same approach as Dr. Zakir Naik when he said how can he cannot comment on OBL when he never met him. We have been forced to accept the narrative by U.S. NATO and the western media about this 'boogeyman' which has more often than not been used to invade muslim lands and crack down on legitmate resistance movements against American/Israeli's colonialist and imperialistic ambitions – and thus leave Allah to judge to man. All i can say is that prior to 9/11 and some time even before that OBL had a track record as a mujahidd who was instrumental in fighting the soviets – which if it wasn't for their defense of Afghansitan – then today afghanistan might have become an athiest country had the soviets been successful. I wont comment the later part of his life simply because we have only been told of one narrative and we don't have any other credible information that has integrity. Just because they propagate there is an organisation called al-aida that blows people up and whose head is OBL, doesnt mean we have to accept it as true without investigation.

    At the same time, i say bombings, killing, shedding blood of innocent people is apprehensible and condemned regardless of who commits it, whether muslim or non-muslim. We normally dont know accurately who commits these but we do know AMerica is complicit in many atrocities around the world.. Senseless killing is not islamic.

    Allah knows best.


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  12. Umm Abu Dujaanah May 2, 2011 at 11:32 pm Reply Tweet

    "O you who believe! If a Fasiq comes to you with any news, verify it, lest you should harm people in ignorance, and afterwards you become regretful for what you have done." (Qur'aan 49:6)


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  13. Umm Abu Dujaanah May 3, 2011 at 11:43 pm Reply Tweet
  14. - May 4, 2011 at 1:31 am Reply Tweet

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnychOXj9Tg

    be cautious of the sudden rock music right at the end, but this is defo worth a watch..


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  15. Umm Maeesha May 4, 2011 at 10:56 pm Reply Tweet

    "It took 919,967 deaths,10 years and two wars to kill that guy. It cost USA roughly $1,188,263,000,000 to kill that guy."

    Chris Douglas Roberts (Thanks for 'tweeting' that fact for us)

    Oh America, America, America, America, what should we do with you?


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  16. NOTW May 6, 2011 at 1:41 am Reply Tweet

    Has anyone thought of the possibility of this scenario on OBL 'death' ——–>>>

    America captured OBL but did not kill him but rather transferred him to a secret facility whilst proclaiming to the world they killed him. After all, why would America want OBL dead when they could, by torturing him, obtain valuable intel on Al-Qaida just like they tortured Khalid Sheikh Mohammed [Guantanamo prisoner and the alledged mastermind behind 9/11] who supposedly gave the lead to OBL courier which lead them to OBL in Pakistan. OBL wasn't even armed and this is confirmed by U.S. officials.

    Jack Bauer never kills his enemies but always keeps them alive to get further leads.

    Think about it – We haven't seen OBL's body and the U.S. said they already buried him. But could they have only claimed so as a ploy to avoid further investigation and to put a close on OBL.

    How can you dispose the body of the worlds most wanted man within 24 hours – the talk about burying him according to Islamic customs is rubbish because why would they give respect to the man they hate so much buy giving him 'Islamic' burial?

    OBL would have wanted to die as a martyr and he would have put up a resistance which guarantees his death than to be captured – but the fact that he was unarmed according to U.S. officials tells me the U.S. would have been happy to take him alive and not kill him.

    - ask yourself what good is a dead enemy than a captured enemy, especially one which is not a front-line soldier but the intelligence behind the worlds most notorious organisation?


    I'm increasingly beginning to believe the above scenario might just be a valid scenario in which OBL is actually and currently alive but falsely proclaimed dead. And he is currently right now under U.S. custody and transferred to a secret facility where they will torture him for intel. Allah knows best, but if the above scenario has some validity then we should all be concerned.


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  17. - May 6, 2011 at 2:54 am Reply Tweet

    bismillahir rahmaanir raheem

    no sorry, can't agree with that. reason being because when the news broke, the real news was all over the pakistani media, which i followed closely. the reports emerging now about usama's wife being shot in the leg, a 12yr old daughter watching/witnessing her father being shot were all reported in the pakistani news on the day the news broke to the world about his death. moreover, all the conspiracy theories that later emerged in the western media were also being considered on that first day by pakistani journalists and analysts.

    now what's that got to do with the price of eggs, right?

    at least two of the pakistani journalists had met usama at least a couple of times each and had interviewd him etc in the 90s. [google hamid mir]. both these guys said that usama would never have allowed himself to be captured, this is something usama bin laden had long considered and maintained – that they could kill him, but they'd never take him away alive. the two journalists/analysts maintained this, and i maintain it.

    why? because in my most humble opinion, allah wouldn't allow it. allah swt doesnt betray the hopes of his slaves [swt], and right or wrong, or whatever you hold usama bin laden to be, the fact is, he was a slave of allah, and in his own way he sought martyrdom. perhaps it is my opinion/expectation of allah [swt], but i do not see that a man who had divorced this world seeking death fisabilillah; who then had particular expectation of his lord – that Allah [swt] would not allow him to be captured, though he may be killed – i do not see how that slave could be captured by the US and taken for torture. i just dont see that Allah [swt] would allow that. And of course, we have no knowledge of the unseen, so as with all matters, Allah [swt] knows best.

    what is increasingly settling within me – and an unwelcome feeling it is – is the possibility that perhaps they did kill him. up until this week, i guess i just assumed usama bin laden – the figure the US had shaped out and used as a tool to butcher thousands – i figured he either died a long time ago, or was just a concoction. the 'videos' that came in recent years etc, i just assumed they were conspired by the US. up until monday i'd never really considered that this guy may be alive somewhere. but now i'm beginning to wonder. maybe he was alive after all, and maybe they did get him. even though their story doesnt add up in any way shape or form, perhaps there is truth in at least the fact that they killed him.

    i dont know. allah knows. but as for him being captured – no. not in my eyes, allah [swt] wouldnt allow it. wallahu 'alam.


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  18. Umm Abu Dujaanah May 7, 2011 at 12:51 am Reply Tweet

    In the hearts of Green birds, InshaAllaah, Rahimahullaah


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  19. Abu Umayr May 7, 2011 at 2:41 am Reply Tweet

    InshaAllaah


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  20. NOTW May 7, 2011 at 1:10 pm Reply Tweet

    Inshallah, Ameen.

    @ –
    Good analysis, i haven't thought of it like that. I hope what i said isn't the case, but you have to remember others have been captured and tortured i.e. Khalid Shaykh Muhammad and others – but that maybe doesn't discount what you said – seeing OBL was kinda unique. I hold your assumption to be valid…….

    The U.S. have always been known to manipulate events, i don't trust them at all. I don't take their official story to be true or even close to the truth – we won't really know what happened because nothing is evident and clear including how he died, where he died, when he died, who killed him, who was involved? and then backtracking to ask questions like, was he responsible for this and that, what was his aim etc. etc. We have only heard of one narrative since 9/11 and some time prior to that.

    Allah knows best. May Allah honour his slaves in this world and the next; and give victory to Islam, establish justice, remove falsehood, and destroy and humiliate the arrogant and the oppressors.


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  21. bintfulaan May 7, 2011 at 5:07 pm Reply Tweet

    Ya Umm Abu Dujaanah, that's beautiful. InshaAllaah


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  22. - May 7, 2011 at 11:49 pm Reply Tweet

    aameen.

    all praise is for allah that i can say that allah [swt] didnt allow it. allah doesn't belie the hopes of the one who hopes in Him. all praise is due to allah, today, tomorrow, always. heart hurts though, subhan'allah.

    i sincerely ask you to make du'aa for his family who is in pakistani custody. insha'allah they'll remain protected, because i honestly dont think the americans will do them much justice. may allah swt make this a means by which pakistan develops a backbone, aameen.


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  23. - May 8, 2011 at 12:05 am Reply Tweet

    http://www.guernicamag.com/blog/2652/noam_chomsky

    worth the read, insha'allah.


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